It is easy to forget that the .358 bore comes in an extremely varied range of twist rates from 1:16 to 1:12. The ammunition hung on a while longer, but eventually Big Green abandoned her babies and stopped making both cartridges. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. The numerous magnum .30s are also excellent, but they deliver more recoil. Thats the primary game for many of us, but one size doesnt fit all. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. It never got up. Norma offers factory ammunition, E.R. Mag. Clearly, for the hunter seeking heavy game and willing to accept this level of recoil, the .358 Norma Magnum deserves far more popularity than it has received. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. It was verry expensive to shoot, lots of powder and expensive bullets and brass. Why the public abandoned it so quickly is a mystery to me. The .35 Rem. Its still a fine choice, but I dont have a .338 right now. Theres also a mindset difference. For the handloader, as the accompanying table demonstrates, the .358 Norma Magnum provides an almost unbelievable range of possibilities, from loads light enough for gallery shooting to heavy enough. compare 338/06 vs 338 win, and 35 whelen vs 358 norma vs 358 alaskan (stw) loaded to same pressure. Hornady has a Superformance load with a 200-grain SP at 2910 f.p.s. Its often thought that if they had it would have gained popularity over the .338 Win. They truly were ahead of their time, as they were short magnums back when being a short magnum wasnt cool. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. This is because it was discontinued in the mid-1970s, and reintroduced by Remington in 2003. The H-4895 load given in the table is not from any manual but was worked up with the assistance of Hodgdon ballistician Ron Reiber. Today, rifles can be made very light, but that can also be overdone because light rifles are whippy and hard to control when youre out of breath and have to settle in for a quick shot. By coincidence, in that same year, Norma Projektilfabrik of Sweden introduced its own heavyweight champion, the .358 Norma Magnum. Norma loads their 250-grain Oryx bullet to this velocity, and as the rear portion of the bullet is bonded, it will give an excellent blend of expansion and penetration. As unmagical as that might sound, it's one of the hardest hitting non-magnum cartridges ever. The major problem with light loads is getting enough pressure to provide a good gas seal. Real world, the Norma bitchslaps brown bears and moose as convincingly as the 375H&H. It is a good choice for shooters who are very sensitive to recoil, since its free recoil energy is only about 4.5 ft. lbs. The only rifles I can find in production are from Nosler, Remington and CVA. With modern powders the muzzle velocities can certainly beat those of the Cordite loads a century ago, especially in a modern rifle. Is the .358 Norma Magnum a cartridge destined to make a huge comeback? The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. Remington currently lists a Model 7 rifle with a 20-inch barrel; todays version of the 600 in .350 Rem. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. With such a wide range of both cast and jacketed bullets available, and todays variety in powders, the .358 Norma has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to load possibilities. While most of the .35 caliber rifle cartridges are powerful medium bore numbers designed for use on large (CXP3) game like elk and moose, the most popular .35 caliber rifle cartridge is the .35 Remington. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. It has never failed me. The recent introduction of a Hornady LeverEvolution factory load for the .35 Remington has usefully improved its ballistics. However, the majority of American deer hunters dont live in elk country, but many dream of going elk hunting. As an experiment, I shot the nilgai five or six more times with different bullets, then hauled the carcass back to the cleaning station intact and carried out a necropsy. crying, My kingdom for a rifle.. Sadly, I cant find a single major gunmaker chambering this cartridge today. On a 600 pound animal like a big bull elk the optimum game range of the .308 (180 grain bullet at a MV of 2610 fps) is a useful 175 yards. I shot my first bull elk in Montanas Pioneer Mountains on a snowy Thanksgiving in 1972. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. The .338-inch fans cite the advantage of the higher sectional density figures, while the .358-inch camp favors the better frontal diameter of the larger bore. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. No matter if its books, art or hunting cartridges, its only those with a deep understanding of the subject who can fully understand the greatness often buried in obscurity. They live in steep, rough country, and their long legs cover a lot of ground. But there is another Rigby cartridge, vastly overlooked even among rifle cranks, but which was at one time as popular as the .375 H&H Magnum: the .350 Rigby Magnum. Mag. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. Hunting Shack 35WHELEN1N Game King 35 Whelen 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. Today, it is strictly a custom proposition unless one of the original rifles chambered for it can be found. Theres more to success than merely landing a good one on the chin. of muzzle energy. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. 9.3x62 boots 320gr Woodleigh protected points and weldcore round noses out at 2400 fps with RL-17. Throw a belt on the .35 Newton and you couldnt tell the difference three feet away. to achieve its potential. Either of the other two cartridges mentioned will work just fine also. Since lack of a gas seal in a low-pressure load is more of a nuisance than a danger, it can be ignored if you dont mind the soot. The softpoints were used for the various antelope species, dangerous cats and even buffalo, while the full-patch, non-expanding solids would be used on elephant. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. For the next year, comparisons were inevitable between Johanssons Hammer of Thor and the .358s powerful 250-grain bullet. Compare the Queen of the .35's, the .350 Remington Magnum--the original short (.308 length) magnum cartridge--with the new generation of short action magnums. Have a .350 Rem Mag, building a .358 Win currently, would prefer to do the .358 Norma if possible but not sure if this action can handle it.Anyone? Out of stock View Details . This standard (.30-06) length magnum cartridge drives a 250 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2799 fps with 4350 ft. lbs. In many areas a 100-pound deer might be normal, but mule deer and whitetail bucks exist that are triple that size. Also, many of these hunters have the luxury of a long season close to home. There have been many others, such as the .35-30 Maynard (both in the 1865 and the 1882 versions) and .35-40 Maynard. In cartridges, as in boxing, what goes on behind the scenes often determines the outcome. In 1965 Remington took it to the next level with the introduction of the Model 600 Magnum Carbine. Also, the 35 Whelen will not do much that your 350 and 358 already do, if anything. That 225-grain bullet has a sectional density (SD) value of 0.251, a bit light for what is normally considered to be appropriate for dangerous game. Heeding the advice of American friends, Kvale worked on what would become the .358 Norma Magnum. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. Cartridges that in many cases cannot match the killing power, at normal hunting ranges, of comparable .35's. Energy figures have it knocking at the door of 375H&H. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? We've got you covered. .450 Nitro Express .17 Hornet 7mm STW 6.8 Western .375 Ruger .223 Remington6.5x55 Swedish .416 Remington Magnum .300 Winchester Short Magnum 28 Nosler 6.5 PRC .22 WMR .458 Winchester Magnum .204 Ruger .22 Hornet .280 Ackley Improved .240 Weatherby Magnum .458 Lott.264 Winchester Magnum.348 Winchester.33 Nosler.260 Remington.30-30 Winchester.416 Rigby.358 Norma Magnum.22 LR7mm-08 Remington8mm Remington Magnum.338 Federal.224 Valkyrie.338-06 A-Square9.3x62mm Mauser.257 Weatherby Magnum.45-70 Government.300 H&H Magnum.25-06 Remington.30-06 Springfield6.5 Creedmoor.300 Remington Ultra Magnum7mm Remington Magnum.470 Nitro Express.280 Remington.300 Winchester Magnum.270 Winchester.222 Remington.45 ACP.404 Jeffery.44 Remington Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.243 Winchester.338 Winchester Magnum.357 S&W Magnum6.5-284 Norma8x57 Mauser.38 Smith & Wesson Special7x57mm Mauser9mm Luger.35 Whelen.454 Casull.375 H&H Magnum.45 Colt.22-250 Remington10mm Auto.308 Winchester. I think it would be cheeper to get another action or a magnum bolt. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Mag. Why the .35 Rem. Todays Norma factory ammunition is loaded with the companys excellent bonded-core 250-grain Oryx. Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Its a decent cartridge, but American hunters just wont flock to it. Normas original spec sheet for the .358 Norma Magnum when it was released in 1959 indicated the cartridges ballistics. The bullet went in behind the near shoulder, struck the far shoulder from the inside, and the blue bull hit the ground with a thud. Bottles & 12-oz. It was predictable that the .356 Win. As it was released in the first century of the . For anyone with an experimental or fanciful turn of mind, the .358 Norma and the many .358-inch diameter bullets are a gold mine. Somehow, years ago, I got the notion that it is not prudent to be opening the bolt face of a 700 from standard (270W) to magnum (358N). Shorter and more common than the magnum-length receiver needed for the .375 and .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, the Winchester Model 70s and Remington Model 721s gave a new level of performance when chambered for the new magnums. The 6.5mm Creedmoor and the old 6.5x55 are sound minimal choices, adequate to 300 yards. G. Joined: Sep 2009. In the years since, the .35 Rem. Perhaps thats why it has survived. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. They can take their time and pick their shots. The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. But in those countries where the lighter cartridges are legal for the cats, the .350 Rigby Magnum is just about perfect. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. of muzzle energy. all were more powerful-and may have been excellent hunting cartridges-but they are gone; rejected by the shooting public and banished to the junk heap of obsolescence. With todays interest in long-range shooting, big scopes are in, but powerful scopes add weight. The .35 Rem. You get the shot you get, and within sensible limits, you must be able to take the shot offered. into the deer woods, and I pine for what could have been. and the .32 Win. Your at the old delema again: does 200 fps matter to the deer. The sad truth is that the active list of current .35-caliber rifles and cartridges is tragically short. . To reach the .300 mark, youd need a 270-grain bullet (the North Fork and Woodleigh bullets come immediately to mind), but stabilization becomes an issue in the slower twists, and thats long been a problem in .35-caliber barrels. If the .35 Rem. Actual weight depends on subspecies, nutrition, and age, but 600 pounds is a good starting point for grownup bulls and twice the size of an unusually large deer. I bought it as a moose rifle but never got drawn in ten years. The nearest of any to the .358 Norma was the .35 Newton, which it closely resembles. Both calibers share the same dimensions of the case head as the .300 H&H Magnum, but have far less body taper, resulting in the same internal capacity in a shorter case. Here are the features to watch out for. As Ive said, I like mediums, such as the unpopular 8mm Remington Magnum and the faster .33s. Essentially a .338 Magnum with a bigger mouth, the .358 Norma can push 250-grain bullets faster. Unlike either the .338 or .375, the .35 (.358-inch) has been a standard American caliber since 1900. The company has chambered several rifles in the cartridge including models in bolt-action, pump-action and semi-automatic. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. I took it to Texas in 1989 and decked a nilgai at about 90 yards. With its spitzer-pointed bullets, the .358 is a good medium- to long-range cartridge with capabilities out to 250 yards on big game. The .356 Win. But the .416 is certainly not the only cartridge to bear the Rigby surname; read the works of Walter Dalrymple Maitland Karamoja Bell, or Col. Jim Corbett and the .275 Rigbybetter known as the 7x57mm Mauserwill get all sorts of praise. This wonderful efficiency of the .35 calibers is especially remarkable when one considers that most all of these rounds are verging on obsolescence today. .470 Nitro Express. The .35 Caliber Cartridge Family(.357 Mag., .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. He, too, could have been one of the greats. [1] Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. There are many good choices, and shot placement is more important than case dimensions and bullet diameter. It can work in close or at a distance or dazzle you with footwork. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. Not necessarily top dollar everything. The .350 Rem. Even the obscure .358 Norma Magnum is the most efficient of the belted-magnum cartridges [note - by the author's own data the 350 Remington Magnum bests the 358 Norma]. The body of the .350 Magnum measures 0.517 inches at the base, smaller than the 0.589-inch base of the .416 Rigby. Around eight pounds set to go is a good compromise. The Swedish firm of A.B. The .35 Whelen fires a larger .358 bullet and is therefore right at the cusp of being a big game caliber and is capable of handling everything except . The 35 whelen and 358 winchester were the two I was torn between. But have owned multiple 9.3s and Whelens. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different. 1 Item (s) Show per page. However, the small bore cartridges from .24 to .32 caliber have proven quite reliable on these smaller animals, so I am not going to argue that anyone needs a .35 to hunt CXP2 class game. Either way, the Newton is the unbelted twin of the .358 Norma. We've got you covered. .22 LR7mm-08 Remington8mm Remington Magnum.338 Federal.224 Valkyrie.338-06 A-Square9.3x62mm Mauser.257 Weatherby Magnum.45-70 Government.300 H&H Magnum.25-06 Remington.30-06 Springfield6.5 Creedmoor.300 Remington Ultra Magnum7mm Remington Magnum.470 Nitro Express.280 Remington.300 Winchester Magnum.270 Winchester.222 Remington.45 ACP.404 Jeffery.44 Remington Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.243 Winchester.338 Winchester Magnum.357 S&W Magnum6.5-284 Norma8x57 Mauser.38 Smith & Wesson Special7x57mm Mauser9 mm Luger.35 Whelen.454 Casull.375 H&H Magnum.45 Colt.22-250 Remington10mm Auto.308 Winchester. Mag. Posts: 46,063. 35 Whelen. I think Jack OConnor, the great champion of the .270, would agree. Any desire to hunt African dangerous game with your medium bore? Loved by gun guys and rejected by the huddled masses, this is perhaps the most underappreciated cartridge of them all. from my E.R. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. Its said that the French used it in World War I, but it probably didnt see much action. | the problem in this debate is we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons. pushes a 200-grain bullet to just more than 2000 f.p.s. Give a Gift When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win.

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